Friday, October 23, 2009

4. Questions about Education Reform. Due Fri Oct 30th, 8:00pm

Step 1- Read all the comments from the previous assignment.
Step 2- Choose one comment which is thoughtful.
Step 3-

First, paraphrase the comment you are responding to: For example: “Ms. Osanovic thinks that…”

Then, write a question about the chosen comment. The question must be: clear, sincere, useful and be the sort of question which leads to more questions. The question you write must complicate the comment’s argument, make the reader of the comment you are questioning think deeper. Stir up some intellectual trouble.

32 comments:

  1. I was taking a look at Mr. Belilovsky's comment and I noticed that he thinks that most of the things that are done at school can be done at home. I agree. A parent can just teach his/her child about math arithmetic, reading, science, music, and other school subjects. But I have a question for Mr. Belilovsky. You sound like you think school is bad and that you think everyone should be homeschooled. How do you really feel about school? What about friends? If you don't to school you wouldn't have much friends. Tell me Mr. Belilovsky.

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  2. Brian Belilovsky’s comment was very thoughtful and the part where he said “There are actually no benefits in school that you can’t get at home” I would agree because anything you can do at school you can do at home anytime you want and don’t have to wake up early. My question is that you are making school sound like it is unless, it shouldn’t be here, so what do you think about school? What would you do if you had a chance to be homeschooled would you do it and not go to school? Do you think you can be just as successful if you were homeschooled by a tutor or your parent? What about friends, what would happen if you hardly knew anyone and have no friends?

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  3. Arielle George stated specifically that school hours and school years should be extended. I completely disagree despite the spirit of her statements. My question to Arielle George would be, How do you think people would feel if you executed your dream regime? Would people despise you for trying to "help" the school system? Or do you think that most would respect your opinion?

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  4. Mr. Belilovsky said that there is no benefit of going to school. He also says that instead of having school, we could stay home and learn there, without having to wake up early. I disagree with his opinion, and I have a question. How will you learn at home? The only way is home tutors, and they cost a LOT OF MONEY! How will that keep parents rich? And he said rich people go to school because they have nowhere to spend their money. PUBLIC SCHOOLS ARE FREE!!! Do you really hate school so much?

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  5. Ms. Walsh’s comment on education /school reform is thoughtful. I agree with just about everything she stated and how she disagrees with the way Secretary Duncan wants to improve education. I agree that students as well as teachers do need a break at some point in the year. I also agree that lengthening the amount of time we spend in school does not guarantee a better education. It is important how good the quality of our education is. However, some of the other things Ms. Walsh said made me think. She says that in her opinion, the most important improvement in education was awarding outstanding teachers with merit pay. Yet, she then says becoming highly qualified costs money. Now, this is my question for you, Sarah. Are you suggesting that there IS enough money to reward outstanding teachers with merit pay, yet there isn’t enough money for teachers to become highly qualified? Which is more important: to improve the quality of teachers we have now or reward the outstanding ones?

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  6. Mr.Mei's comment on education was short but thoughtful.I agree with him that students really should meet their standards because when you think of it do you really want other countries to say America is dumb? We truly are competing with other countries such as India and China and to me were all tied , but at anytime there could be a landslide.For my question about Mr. Mei's comment is: How do you feel about school days being extended to 24/7?

    For Mr. Brain's debate on my 3 paragraphs i disagree with your statement on my "older" web log because i specifically stated that i didn't want school hours to be extended and maybe I'm wrong but i remember stating that fact.

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  7. Mr. Belilovsky says “There are no benefits of going to school that you can’t get at home.” Can you teach yourself math at home or the different parts of a story? How about U.S. and world history. You need teachers to teach you U.S. and world history. At school you also have a more active environment. If you need help at school you can ask classmates for help if you have trouble. Homeschooling only has 1 person classes. School can teach you more if only you pay attention. Usually there is no distraction in a classroom. Plus, you have longer hours. Homeschooling is less hours, and it is at your house. I bet you that you can easily lose focus on a poster, television, or a game system. School has a better chance of educating people than homeschooling.

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  8. Arielle George thinks that “ Rewarding outstanding teachers with merit pay” is the most important because money isn’t everything, but now she thinks it’s a push for all the teachers. My question to her is: What if they have a merit pay and some teachers take advantages and then they quit working for getting enough money, then the school is losing teachers, what can the principal or any one do to get more teachers?

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  10. Mr. Brian Belilovsky has a thoughtful idea about home schooling. He believes you can get the same benefits of learning at home as well as in school. He thinks if you get the same benefits you should just stay home. Brian said at home you can learn, practice and work in an everyday situation. You won’t have to wake up early to go to school and parents won’t have to pay for their children to go to school. I disagree because what if the child’s parents didn’t get the best education possible themselves. Then they won’t teach their child the correct curriculum. If the child’s parents aren’t rich it would cost them a lot of money to get school supplies. Like textbooks, a chalkboard, pencils, pens and possibly a tutor. The parents will also have to upgrade their supplies/materials every year. Why not just send them to public school because the parents don’t have to pay. The child will be able to interact and socialize. Some children may not want to be cooped up in a house learning. It might not make the child successful. Instead they might become lazy. They’ll get so used to staying at home. The child might not feel like going outside ever or may develop difficulties interacting with other people. They may feel like its too much work. I do agree with home schooling for babies, students with disabilities, for children who live in dangerous environments and for children in poor school systems. I just think home schooling is not for everybody. We all have different learning style’s and different needs. Now my questions to you Mr. Belilovsky is how would you like it if you were home schooled and couldn’t interact/socialize with other children? Does home schooling effect a child’s personality and would it effect yours? Do you think you would be able to achieve your career goals being home schooled?

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  11. Ms. Quintana agrees with Secretary Duncan's idea that lengthening the school day and/or school year would be the best way to promote improved student education. She supports her point of view with a reasonable argument, suggesting that more time in school means more time for instruction which will, “extend their learning skills by an enormous amount”.

    Although she does seem to reach a logical conclusion, I would have to say that I disagree with Nicole. As I said in my own response, I believe that quality is more important then quantity. As a student, I know that we need a break once in a while. Some students think that school is already too long as it is! Both teachers and students may be reluctant to make these changes. I wonder if this negative atmosphere could defeat the purpose of promoting education.

    This leads me to my question: Do you think that lengthening the school day and/or school year will effect the way students feel about going to school? Do you think that their frame of mind might impact their ability to concentrate and learn? Would an unhappy mind even be open to learning? What will the result be of having less time to unwind and relax each day? And how about the many teachers, who became teachers to have summers off? How will their attitudes affect their teaching? Finally, will the American family benefit from having even less time to spend together? Yes, it's true, quantity may increase, but at what cost, and is it worth it?

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  12. Brian Belilovsky said there is no benfit of going to school. I disagree because you would have to pay more for home schooling than going to a public school. For home schooling you would have to pay a tutor to teach. As i was reading Brian's comment my question was can you be just as successful home schooled as if in a public school? How would you make any friends?

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  13. I disagree the comment of Ms. Quintana. I disagree because her comment states that the school days should be extended. Everyone should get days off to take in everything they learned. If the number of days at school is extended, everybody will keep on learning and never be able to take it in. What will happen when students can’t take it in? Won’t they be just think this is all torture? They probably won’t be able to survive the amount of learning the next day.

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  14. Mr. Ali said that school should be open six days a week. I disagree because kids will think school is too long which means they are going to think school is a joke. Why would kids want to school if they think it is too long? If students don’t go to school will the teachers still get the same amount of pay? We don’t want to be called dumb because we don’t go to school because of the six days of school, which is why we should just have five days of school each week. We all want to meet our standards but if we get no breaks we will not succeed to meeting our standards.

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  15. I enjoyed reading Ms. McAllister’s response. I thought it was very thoughtful and I agreed with some of the things she stated. She said, “With more teachers striving to be the best, and trying to teach their students more, education rates will definitely prosper.” I agree with this because all the teachers are getting paid to do better. Wouldn’t you think if they wanted to get paid they would work harder?
    “If we are competing for jobs with kids in India and China, we’ll just have to work harder and want to learn outside of the classroom, because that’s what a good student is: someone who goes the extra mile, because they want, not have, to.” Ms. McAllister stated. I agree because if you have to be pushed and pushed to do something and don’t want to do it, what’s the point of doing it at all. If we have to be pushed, we might not get those jobs we’re fighting for. If we want to go the extra mile, there is a great chance to get those jobs.
    Some questions that I have for Ms. McAllister is what if children couldn’t afford to go to school and their parents couldn’t teach them either? How could they get a good job and get money if they didn’t get any education?

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  16. Mr.Ali you think the points that the president made in his speech are not important. I have only one thing to say, why? Do you think that encouraging higher standards is wrong? Or outstanding teachers should get the same pay as the lousy teachers. What about the school days. Should there be less school days, or how school at all. Do we even need college or is that optional too?

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  17. Mr. Belilovsky thinks that there are actually no benefits of going to school which can not be done all at home.
    Do you think that if you were schooled at home you would gain the same benefits if you went to school?
    I mean yes, you won’t have to wake up so early and it might be more comfortable, but you wouldn’t be able to make new friends or go out with your school peers.
    You may lack the skills to be able to socialize with other people which when you grow up it will be a little harder to communicate with them. Plus, on top of that you won’t be able to sleep in because even though you don’t have to wake up at seven you still can’t wake up at three (which if people are like me is TOATLLY normal).
    Your home is a temptation 24 hours because you will have the television, all your computer games around you, etc.
    You can not escape the immediate environment and you can never report back to your parents that you did not get any homework.

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  18. Mr. Belilovsky thinks that there are no benefits of going to school that you can’t get at home. Do you think that you would learn the same exact techniques and curriculums you are being taught in school if you were to be taught at home?

    Even though there are some disadvantages of going to public school, such as, waking up early in the morning and doing more work than you are required to actually do, I don’t believe you would get the same learning experience as you would at home. School teaches you responsibility, something you might never be able to grasp at home. School also teaches you easier methods and strategies for most of your subjects. At home, you might be taught by somebody who doesn’t fully understand or know these strategies and might not be able to teach you them. Also, you wouldn’t be able to make friends when you’re homeschooled and you might not have the social skills needed to talk to other people.

    At school though, you can learn in a peaceful environment at your own pace and with your peers. Even though there are a few struggles in going to public school, public school is a better choice because you are provided with a better education for free, instead of paying to be homeschooled and not getting the same benefits you would get in public school.

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  19. Mr. Belilovsky's thinks that kids should be homeschooled instead of going to public school. He thinks homeschool is more beneficial to kids than going to public school. I disagree with several reasons. It is true that kids can get more rest and more work done at home, but I don't think it is healthy to stay home everyday for hours. Kids should go out and take in some new fresh air. That is good for kid's health and also, when kids go to public school, kids can get to know more friends. I have many friends while going to school. If I didn't go to school, I think I would not have been happy at all. I also think, while at school, teachers can push kids to their limit or even surpass that limit. If at home, I think kids will think that they have more freedom and would not concentrate. In my opinion, I think going to public school is better than getting homeschooled. Mr. Belilovsky, I have a question for you. Do you think that being homeschool is going to get kids more successful than going to public school?

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  21. I"m also commenting on Mr. Belilovsky's beacuse there are actually good benefits for going to school. Unless you go to home schooling which is a faster education. My question to him is would you be more successful if you were home schooled or if you went to a public school. The benefits are that you learn not to take drugs in school.Schools give students more than just an education of 1+1. Students can learn to have a wider perception of things. School also can keep kids from getting bored and into things they shouldn't be into like drugs. And the education they get from school helps them get jobs or to go to a further education to get a even better career. Plus kids that come from poor families now have a chance to make a future for them-
    self.

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  22. Mr. Belilovsky’s comment was very thoughtful, but it did leave me with a few questions. You said that there is no benefit of going to school, and that you can get an education at home. I think that is somewhat true, but, when you go into the real world and have to interact with your co-workers, your home schooling will not have prepared you for that. School offers group work; situations where students have to work together. Getting up early and working harder are small sacrifices to make when it comes to getting or not getting a job.

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  23. Mr. Belilovsky’s perspective on home schooling was interesting. Mr. Belilovsky thinks that you can get a better education at home than in school. I disagree with this because you actually get a better education in school than at home. In school you not only learn about different subjects such as math, science, and social studies you also learn how to be a better person. You learn how to work together in a group. You also learn about standing up for yourself, and to not be afraid to ask questions. I mean, you wouldn’t come to a job interview saying that you have been home schooled, and the job you’re applying for consists of teamwork, would you?
    If you sit at home with your mommy teaching you all the time you would end up a wimp all your life. Plus you wouldn’t be able to take orders from someone unless you’ve attended school. Besides, school is a great social environment with students helping each other, teachers answering questions, and there may also be some fun wedged in between them both. So you see Mr. Belilovsky, school is way better than any home school teacher you will ever have because school prepares kids for the world beyond it.

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  24. Brian Belilovsky said there are no benefits of going to school that you can’t get at home. I disagree with what Brian said. There are benefits of going to school that you can’t get at home. If you want to learn at home you need a tutor which costs a bunch of money. Only rich people can afford that. Not everyone is rich. Homeschooling doesn’t keep parents rich. The question I want to ask Brian is that what if the information the tutor teaches you are wrong or different from what public school is teaching? What will happen to the kids that learns the wrong information?

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  25. Ms. Quintana thinks that the best effort, which is best to promote students education is to extend the school year and the school weeks. I thought that some of Ms. Quintana’s thoughts about our school education were interesting. She explained that she thought that if we had more time in our school weeks and years we could fit in more of our classes into our schedule. Ms. Quintana also stated that school is not for socializing to our friends or fooling around. She believes that school is a building of dedicated people willing to teach the young minds of the district. Why would we need to extend the school days for fitting in more classes when we could just study them at home? If school is not for socializing with our friends or fooling with our friends why do us kids still do it?

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  27. I was shocked at Mr. Belilovsky comments. School is beneficial. You learn important social skills. Without communication the world is DEAD! Some of his comments though made sense. Education at home parents can teach you at your own pace. I have question suppose your parent has no formal education how will they teach you and hire a tutor they will probably barely be able to provide for you plus a tutor? Then again you wouldn’t be rushed through a lesson then expected to do the homework if you can’t understand it. It is also important to go to school so you will be able to work with others when at home you most likely will have no interaction with any but your mom. So going to school is very important because even though it may hard you will eventually benefit from it.

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  28. Mr.Belilovsky says that you can learn everything you learn at school at home. I however disagree although I would love to wake up later and do less work, in the future I/you will not be socially fit for the real world. Work is basically a group effort although you might do things to get yourself ahead in life you need to get information from others to help you get ahead. How are you suppose to get home schooled? That would cost the same amount of money it would take to send you just to collage. Think of it this way pre-k to the end of collage about 18 years seeing the same person. Your parents have to pay that tutor almost EVERY month. That’s a lot of money! Public schools are FREE.

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  29. Mr. Belilovsky says that there are no benefits of going to school. I COMPLETELY disagree with Mr. Belilovsky's comment. To learn at home it cost more money than going to a Public school. Note that I said Public, public means anyone can go to that school for free, instead of paying a teacher to come to your house at 12:00 pm. Students, like us need to wake up for school early, because when we get a job we 100% need to wake up early and how are we going to do that when we aren't use to it. How are we going to know what you need for the state math test without textbooks, and the textbooks at school are free, on the other hand when you are homeschooling you have to pay $50 or more for one, but then you wouldn't need it later on in your life, so what you are really doing is throwing away money for nothing. When you want to learn science how are you going to get all the chemicals and supplies at home? Another problem is you don't know what is happening outside of your home, and you don' have any communication with your friend. School is not only about being smart or knowing the periodic table by heart, school is also about activities you do. When you fill out your application for a college you have to list activities you did, for example playing an instrument is a good activity, or another example could be Drama or dance. These activities can help you earn a place in college. But how are you going to do this at home?... Exactly there is a big benefit of going to school.

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  30. Mr. Leontyev says,” I say that to promote student education, the schools should extend the school year and the school week. The reason for this is because if we spend more time in school, we could learn more, and have a better education.” A question I have is what happens if students get tired or bored of so much school? Student’s grades might drop because they will not try their hardest because they are so tired; they may also lose interest which will result in them not learning as much. In my perspective, students should have at least two days off and then holidays. School is tiring enough for students and five days a week is sufficient. However, students that want to remain in school for longer hours should have the option to do so, but not be forced to.

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  31. When I read Mr. Belilovsky’s post I disagreed when he said there are actually no benefits in school that you can’t get at home. I would disagree with Brian. There are many benefits at school that we can not get at home. At home when we are getting home schooled, we could just get up and leave to get a snack from our refrigerator. In school we can’t. At school we get more school time to learn our different subjects. At home our tutors come at the middle of the afternoon, and only stay for about two hours.
    At school we have forty five minutes for each subject, in home schooling for whatever amount of time we have with the tutor, we could only spend twenty minutes on one subject, when we want to spend more time on a subject we are having trouble on. A question I have for Mr. Belilovsky is what gave you the idea that there are actually no benefits in school that you can’t get at home? Because when I read that I was confused on how you got that idea.

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